Saturday, February 11, 2012

Questions About Nfl Standings Tie Breakers

John asks…

Question about 2002 playoff tie breaker, cant seem to figure out why?

I am trying to figure out why the Browns clinched playoff but not the Dolphins. Indianapolis Colts took the 5th spot. So there are 4 teams fighting for the 6th spot. They are Dolphins, Browns, Broncos, and Patriots all with 9-7-0. Although NYJ also has 9-7-9, it is a division champion, so it is not in this competition of the 6th spot. I applied the NFL tie breaker rules for teams from different divisions.
From : http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

4. Strength of victory.

5. Strength of schedule.

6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best net points in conference games.

9. Best net points in all games.

10. Best net touchdowns in all games.

11. Coin toss.
Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss

The highest ranked division champions have been eliminated so we proceed to step 2. Since not all of the teams have played against each other, we proceed to step 3. Dolphins and Browns both have the best conference record. So we will only look at those two teams again start from step2 again. Dolphins did not play against the Browns, and they have same conference record. So now we use rule 3 for two teams.

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.


Miami and Cleveland both played Indianapolis
Miami and Cleveland both played New York Jets.
Miami and Cleveland both played Kansas City
Miami and Cleveland both played Baltimore

MIAMI Lost to NYJ 10:13
MIAMI BEAT NYJ 30:3
MIAMI beat BALTIMORE 26:7
MIAMI BEAT INDIANA 21:13
MIAMI lost to KANSAS 48:30

So MIAMI has 60%

CLEVELAND LOST TO IND 23:28
CLEVELAND BEAT BALTIMORE 14:13
CLEVELAND LOST TO KC 40:39
CLEVELAND LOST TO BALTIMORE 21:26
CLEVELAND BEAT NYJ 24:21

So Cleveland has 40%

Thanks
This is the matchup
http://www.nfl.com/schedules?seasonType=POST&season=2002#Week
as we can see, dolphins didnt make the playoff even though it has higher % for common games with cleveland.
http://www.nfl.com/schedules?seasonType=REG&season=2002#Week
heres the 2002 record for all teams
I do not think they have changed the tie-breaker rules.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

(March 20, 2002) -- With the NFL realigning into eight four-team divisions to accommodate the arrival of the Houston Texans, the league adopted new tiebreaking rules.

admin answers:

WOW, that's alot to comprehend

Betty asks…

What's the deal with the AL East Standings? Rays declared champs, but lead by 2 with 2 games remain..?

As of this posting, Tampa Bay leads Boston by 2 games..
Tampa Bay 96 - 64
Boston 94 - 66
But the Rays have been declared champs of the AL East and are celebrating. Seems to me, they've mathematically cinched a tie, but not the division championship.

Maybe the league uses some sort of tie breaker like the NFL, but I thought MLB had a 1 game playoff if there was a tie for a division title. Anyone have an explanation?

admin answers:

They had a better season series. They went 10-8 against the Red Sox so if the two ended in a tie, the Rays would immediately win the division title. The only time there would be an exception is if the two teams were tied and fighting to get in the playoffs but both teams have already clinched their chances to getting to the playoffs so there will be no tie breaker game.

Laura asks…

which two teams will make the wild card in the AFC?

i really want Baltimore and i actually think they will make it but here is the standings right now:
http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=conf

I think Baltimore has the tie breaker over the Broncos because they beat them and they both play easy teams next week so they will have the same record most likely
The jets have a hard game against Cincinnati, while Houston plays New England; Steelers play Dolphins

Im guessing its steelers and Baltimore, what do you think?

admin answers:

I agree with you; Steelers & Ravens.

Steven asks…

Why is New England ranked over Miami?

NFL tie breaking rules:

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Both teams are 8-5

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). They split head to head meetings.

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Both are 3-2.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Miami has 6 wins and 1 loss. New England has 5 wins and two losses. Shouldn't Miami win this tiebreaker?

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Miami is 6-4 and New England is 5-5. Shouldn't Miami also win this tie breaker?

Both NFL.com and Yahoo Sports have New England ranked #2 in the AFC East and Miami ranked # 3.

admin answers:

If the playoffs were to begin today, neither would make the playoffs. That would go to the Colts & Ravens. They appear to have an easy last 3 games, but you can never count a game in the W column until it's over. After week 17 we will know if they are in or if they are vying for a draft pick.

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